Interesting!! Not surprised at all about the Mandans. Yes, many plains tribes were pushed out of the east by other tribes (it warn't all peace and love and kumbaya), so it's easy to accept their sea story. So interesting. Plutarch's directions too. In Cyrus Gordon's Before Columbus - Links Between the Old World and Ancient America he documents international trade/travel between mideast and South America and Asia. Then there is the ancient (now defaced) inscription on the cliffs in New Hampshire: supposedly a port sign for ancient ships. Gordon clearly admired the capabilities of the ancients who did more with less accumulated knowledge.
I was fascinated by Rick's discussion of the Bureau of Ethnology and the limits put on investigation of anyone crossing the Atlantic before our time. There is a curious parallel to a book my mother read in the 50's. Our founding fathers wanted to have a "story" of America as a clean start so to speak, and discouraged research or documentation of anything earlier to the contrary. And then your guest highlights a group that wants to keep the "original" settlers pristine. Everybody's got an agenda!
Clearly, burial mound styles and other evidence link some of these native inhabitants to old world origins, settling here millenia before we did. Mom read Barry Fell's America BC, and I read his Saga America which talks about fleets of ancient explorers/traders sweeping across the Americas (e.g. Jewish colonies in Tennessee). Evidence of date markers were left after the 4th century BC. I know others have accused Fell of sloppy work, but when you look at the body of research on the whole I see convincing evidence of old world visitations in the pre-Colombian era.
I could not get to Rick's website. And I know how to spell archeologist.
It will be interesting to see how much of the wish list he can actually accomplish!
ReplyDeleteInteresting!! Not surprised at all about the Mandans. Yes, many plains tribes were pushed out of the east by other tribes (it warn't all peace and love and kumbaya), so it's easy to accept their sea story. So interesting. Plutarch's directions too. In Cyrus Gordon's Before Columbus - Links Between the Old World and Ancient America he documents international trade/travel between mideast and South America and Asia. Then there is the ancient (now defaced) inscription on the cliffs in New Hampshire: supposedly a port sign for ancient ships. Gordon clearly admired the capabilities of the ancients who did more with less accumulated knowledge.
ReplyDeleteI was fascinated by Rick's discussion of the Bureau of Ethnology and the limits put on investigation of anyone crossing the Atlantic before our time. There is a curious parallel to a book my mother read in the 50's. Our founding fathers wanted to have a "story" of America as a clean start so to speak, and discouraged research or documentation of anything earlier to the contrary. And then your guest highlights a group that wants to keep the "original" settlers pristine. Everybody's got an agenda!
Clearly, burial mound styles and other evidence link some of these native inhabitants to old world origins, settling here millenia before we did. Mom read Barry Fell's America BC, and I read his Saga America which talks about fleets of ancient explorers/traders sweeping across the Americas (e.g. Jewish colonies in Tennessee). Evidence of date markers were left after the 4th century BC. I know others have accused Fell of sloppy work, but when you look at the body of research on the whole I see convincing evidence of old world visitations in the pre-Colombian era.
I could not get to Rick's website. And I know how to spell archeologist.
I don't think "Christitutionalist" will go far.
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