Why would we automatically bestow the mantle of saint on the person who dons the mantle of whistle blower?
When somebody betrays the trust placed on them by their employer without quitting that employer in disgust, what makes their activity unchallengeable?
When somebody passes on information they overheard to the whistleblower in the interest of defaming the one who was overheard, why is that not espionage?
Why should they not be sought ought and terminated?
Their employment, that is.
I agree with everything you said. I don't get it, either.
ReplyDeleteThe Soviet Style Media determines the language.
DeleteIs it whistle blowing when you report second hand gossip innuendo and hersey?
ReplyDeleteIt is now. :(
DeleteWe don’t and it isn’t. That why it’s reviewed by the IG and then, if warranted, forwarded for investigation. I wouldn’t let your opposition define terms and concepts for you.
ReplyDeletePerhaps I wasn't clear. I meant "we" as a culture.
ReplyDeleteAnd it is.
"Espionage or spying is the act of obtaining secret or confidential information or divulging of the same without the permission of the holder of the information. Spies help agencies uncover secret information."
You've assigned a nefarious "interest"...without the knowledge that the Intelligence Community IG has at his disposal. Are you more informed than he, and his interviews and investigation?
DeleteYour rote definition of espionage and spying is accurate....but not germane to this event...without some facts.
Honestly CI, I reread my post.
DeleteI don't understand your interpretation of it.
"in the interest of defaming the one who was overheard" might be what you are referring to, but ignoring motive, should not the primary source have been the whistleblower and should not have been passing the information to a secondary? That right there should be prosecutable.
Need to know and all.
If I pass information that I have access to, to another in my field, who maintains the same accesses and need to know....that isn't a crime. Not remotely.
DeleteI believe that it has been established that the Whistleblower and the associated sources all had the same accesses. If that's not the case, then I'm happy to see evidence of it.
The IC IG and the DNI appear to agree with the above.
Wow... Deflect, change the subject, etc... I guess CI is 'on the inside'...
ReplyDeleteIt's the same subject. Ed is claiming that espionage or spying has occurred. I'm countering, that with the facts at hand...it clearly wasn't.
DeleteHope that wasn't a 'deflection' for you.....
It's a coup, carefully planned by Pelousy with only politics in mind. I HAVE NEVER IN MY 65 YEARS A CITIZEN WITNESSED SUCH A VILE ATTEMPT TO REVERSE A LEGAL ELECTION.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Intelligence Agencies plotting against the duly elected head of state.
DeleteTextbook coup.
Every complaint against Trump pales.
Too bad that the evidence doesn’t support the definition of a “coup”.
DeleteBut words don’t matter many more.
"A coup d'état, also known as a putsch, a golpe de estado, or simply as a coup, means the overthrow of an existing government; typically, this refers to an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a dictator, the military, or a political faction. Wikipedia.
DeleteYou don't see an attempt to oust this president from power by illegal means?
"Illegal means"? Certainly not, until I see some more investigation and evidence. There has been no acts of illegality on the whistleblower side of things, as yet.
DeleteI have no issue with rolling investigation of Hunter Biden [and perhaps Joe] into the current drama......but I have the luxury of not having to reflexively support one side or the other in this theater.
May the facts win out.
Excuse me, the whistleblower is not the coup. He is a facet of the coup.
DeleteBut of course, don't reflexively support the president fighting this crap.
I don’t reflexively support any dishonorable politician.......do you?
DeleteUntil now, a whistleblower, to me, connoted a person who saw an injustice and handed over their information for the overall good. I'm not seeing this at all in the case of this "whistleblower" who is promoting an agenda by purporting to have information on what has been shown to be a non-event.
ReplyDeleteI was shown a Rolling Stone article that decried this "whistleblower" as a phony!
Deletehttps://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/whistleblower-ukraine-trump-impeach-cia-spying-895529/
First of all, consider the source. Rolling Stone? Really? My point is some whistleblowers are true and some are fake. If we had an honest, investigative media, this information would be ferreted out in a New York minute. We are hindered by a press that is a lapdog to the democrats and they will never do the journalistic investigation needed to crack this case. So we wait until some evidence drops.
DeleteI came to this blog from [ https://www.alecsatin.com/social-isolation-and-the-christian/#god-makes-his-strength-perfect-in-weakness ] and was hoping to view some wholesome Christian content. But instead the first post is a Right-wing talking point meant to defend POTUS and discredit the whistleblower...
ReplyDeleteSorry to disappoint.
DeleteChristian content coming up next.
As for the right wing talking point.
It was a question.