Bill Federer is a great patriot, historian and author. And a friend and frequent guest.
I asked Bill to talk to us about Columbus and the real reason he sailed the ocean blue in 1492.
Ed Bonderenka:
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It was only a couple of minutes, but I'd like to refer to it now. We're going to play you the cut first.
Marco Rubio
Our friendship dates back to the earliest years of my nation. When Greece rose in 1821 to recover its independence after centuries of Ottoman rule, Americans recognized something familiar in that struggle. Three years later, the great American statesman, Daniel Webster, he delivered a famous address to Congress, helping bring the cause of the Greek revolution before the representatives of the young American Republic. And he began by calling their attention to everything around them. This is what he said in h speech. He said, "This free form of government, the popular assembly, this practice of free debate and public discussion, the contest of mind with mind, even the edifice in which we assemble these proportion columns, these ornamented architecture, all remind us that Greece has existed and that we, like the rest of mankind are greatly herd debtors." Those words are as true today as they were when he said them.
Ed Bonderenka:
Well, I'd like to tell you a little known fun fact, fun facts to know and tell. In 1821, Greece was in a revolution for its independence against the Ottoman Empire who had conquered them so many years previously, centuries in fact. And so they rose up against the Ottoman Empire for their independence and a general from a prominent Greek family named Demetrius Ypsilantis or Ypsilanti rose up as the George Washington of their battle for revolution and freedom and independence from the Ottoman Empire, the Turks, the Muslims. The city of Ypsilanti, Michigan was founded in 1823 during the Greek struggle for independence and it's named after Demetrius Ypsilanti. It was formerly Woodruff Grove. And so then there's an Ypsilanti North Dakota that was named by a person from Ypsilanti, Michigan who had headed west. And so it's indirectly named after Demetrius Ypsilanti.
Both the British and French governments were opposed to helping this effort at Greek freedom because they saw the continuing battle as a stop gap, something that was holding back the Ottoman Empire from expanding more.
But two admirals of both the British and the Russian fleet decided to step in anyhow and do the right thing and they aided Demetrius Ypsilanti in his battle and the Greeks, of course, famously won their independence from Muslim control.
Oh, there he is. Bill. Bill, I can't hear you. I think you're muted. We forgot to pray about technical difficulty. Oh, there's Bill.
Bill Federer:
All right. Can you hear me now?
Ed Bonderenka:
Excellent. Thank you, Bill.
Yeah, I've been talking before and Derek and my co-hosts are motioning. You muted your mic. We can't hear you. So I fully understand that. Oh, I'd like to say something. Bill has been on this show a number of times and the number might be three, four, five. I'm not sure at this point, but it's a number. It qualifies as a number. It's a whole integer. It's not fractionals. And so you can go back and look at our archives if you'd like to hear more from Bill about history, historical background in America. The Christmas show with Bill was wonderful where he talked about Santa Claus and not that Santa Claus was involved in the attack on Trenton on Christmas Eve, but he also talked about that in the same show. So let's see. Bill, once again, welcome back to the show. How are you today?
Bill Federer
:
Oh, great, Ed. Thanks for having me.
Ed Bonderenka:
You're rocking that Captain America shirt. I like that a lot. That's really good. So we have a national day of mourning for our treatment of the individual indigenous peoples coming up on Monday.This is a federal holiday, the National Indigenous People Morning and Reconciliation Day. No, wait, that hasn't happened yet. I mean, it's Columbus Day, that's right. Columbus Day is normally October 12th, but it's been moved to Monday to give federal workers another three-day weekend. And I was hoping to have you shed some light on Christopher Columbus and his importance to Western history.
Bill Federer:
Right. So it begins with Islamic conquest and the Muslims conquered Egypt, which used to be Christian. They conquered Syria and 638 AD, which used to be Christian. They conquered Jerusalem. Khalif Umar conquered it. The Umayed Muslims conquered all of North Africa. There used to be 250 Catholic dioceses along North Africa. In the year seven and 11, 80,000 Muslims invaded Spain, riding Arabic Arabian horses with stirrups and simetric swords. In 10 years, they conquer all of Spain and they're finally stopped outside of Paris at the Battle of Tours in 732 AD, just 100 years after the death of Muhammad in 632 AD. And then the Turks convert to Islam and they conquer what is today Turkey. So all seven churches mentioned in the book of Revelation were wiped out by the Muslim Turks. The Greek Orthodox Christians beg the Roman Catholic Christians for help and they send help.
It's called the Crusades, and there's nine major crusades in 200 years. When the crusades stop, the Muslims pick up where they left off and they surround Vienna, Austria and capture it in the year 1453. Now this is significant because this ends the land trade routes to get from Europe over to India and China. Remember a couple years earlier, Marco Polo in the 1200s went from Venice, Italy over to China, met Kubla Khan and everything. But once the Muslims conquered Constantinople in 1453 and cut off the land trade routes, the Europeans began to look for a sea route. And so Vasco de Gama from Portugal has a sea route that goes around South Africa to Goa, India in 1498. But in 1492, Columbus thinks the world is smaller in diameter than it actually is. And so he convinced the King and Queen of Spain to support him on a trip to get to India and China sailing directly west.
He run into some islands. He thinks he made it to India, so he names the people, he meets the Indians and the name sticks. And he takes four voyages and through all four of them. He thinks he's close to finding... He's wandering around Cuba with a letter from the King of Spain to the Grand Con of China. He's trying to fit in his mind the geography that Marco Polo and others had sort of rudimentarily put down. He's trying to figure that geography into the Caribbean.
Anyway, so everybody that hates Columbus needs to turn one chapter back in the history books and see that the very reason he set sail in the first place was Islamic jihadi conquest of Christian Europe. Wow,
Ed Bonderenka:
That's making the connections. Yeah.
Bill Federer:
When you think of it, we would never have called Native Americans Indians had it not been for Islamic jihad. Columbus, in his four voyages, he is convinced that he is going to reach the king and queen of Spain. Even in some of his writings, he talks about wanting to take the money from successful trade with Indian China and use it to take back Jerusalem from the Muslims, because it used to be a Byzantine Christian city since the time of Constantine, but this is often left out. Also with slavery, people forget that Muhammad owned black slaves. Muhammad was a white Arab and he had slave trading. Then the Muslim Khalifs, where Jesus says, "Go to a town, preach the gospel. If they don't receive you, shake the dust from your feet and leave." Mohammed's attitude is go to a town, preach your message. If they don't receive you, wage war on the town.
Cut their Head. When they would, and then they'd capture the town, what do you do with the people you capture? Well, you keep some and you sell the rest into slavery. Wherever you had Islam, you had slavery and the slave trade. They enslaved an estimated 180 million Africans and they would castrate the men, make a munich and their harems and so forth. Then they did capture over a million Europeans. In 849 AD, 11,000 Muslims invaded Rome, Italy and they trashed the basilica of St. Peter's and they trashed the bone to St. Peter and St. Paul. It was after that that Pope Leo decided to build a wall around the Vatican, but they carried away so many Europeans as slaves to North Africa that one historian says that it was reigning Christians and you could buy them for the cost of an apple in Tripoli and these different slave trading ports.
It's interesting how they get off the hook. You read these revisionist history books and they say, "Well, slavery started with the Americans." It's like, no, slavery is as common as kings. Wherever you have a king on top, you have a slave on the bottom. Hammurabi's code talks about slaves, right? 1800 BC, he was a contemporary of Abraham. The Egyptians had slaves. Athens had slaves. Rome captured so many of these Europeans, these tribal peoples that were called Slavs. The name Slav meant glorious one. It was the name of a people group, but the Romans captured so many of them and brought them into Rome and gave them away as servants that the word Slav got the connotation of a permanent servant. And of course, today we pronounce that word slave.
Bill Federer:
Wow. So wait a minute. I'm a Slavic people. I'm from Poland, so to speak, Ukraine, Poland, and of course you've got Yugoslavia, Bratislavia, all the Slavias. We make fun of the Istans, Istans, Istans, but there are a lot of Slavists too. And so that's the peoples we're talking about, right? The Slavs?
Bill Federer:
Yeah. Yeah. And so Julius Caesar would capture them and bring him into Rome and give them away as permanent servants. But the Ottoman Empire and Islam was responsible for the largest percentage of slavery in world history, even more than communism. But anyway, so Columbus took four voyages. The first voyage, he met peaceful Indians. They were called Arawaks, and then he is all excited and wants to go back to Spain. There's one ship called the Santa Maria Run to Ground and he has to leave 40 sailors there. They named their settlement La Navidad, and so now he's got two ships. One of the ships was captained by somebody else, and he wanted to make it back to Spain before Columbus so he could get all of the glory, but his ship was caught in a storm, and of course Columbus was caught in a storm as well and barely made it back.
But that was the first voyage. Now, one of the interesting things was that Columbus was a victim of racial discrimination. You're like, "What?" Well, he was Genoan. He was Italian, and he spent years trying to convince the King of Portugal to finance his idea, even the King of England, but they turned him down, but finally the King of Spain backed him. When he came back the first time with this discovery, yes, there was a lot of excitement, but there was a Spanish bishop named Fonseca, and he was upset that the King of Spain had given this Italian, this Genoan named Columbus, the title of Governor of All New Lands Discovered and Admiral of the Ocean Seas.
He said, "You gave that title to somebody that wasn't even Spanish?" And they looked down upon the Genoans. And so the second voyage of Columbus, he had 17 ships, 2,000 rich, quick vineyards, and they didn't want to obey him. He lands at Hispanola or Haiti and has a settlement named Isabella, but then a hurricane hits and they had never ever seen a hurricane before. It totally decimates their little settlement, and then malaria, and they begin to get this disease, and then they scrap that Isabella and they start another settlement that is called Santa Domingo. Anyway, they don't want to obey Columbus. Then they run into some islands and cooking in pots were human bones and gnawed bones and skulls. Lo and behold, this is a second group of Indians called Caribbean, and they were cannibals. And so the word caribe is related to the Spanish word for cannibals.
So they called it the cannibal sea or the Caribbean sea.
Lo and behold, these Caribbean would come up from South America and go island hopping and would depopulate the islands of the peaceful Indians, the Arawaks. They would sodomize them and they'd castrate them and they'd cut off their private parts and fatten them up in cages. Columbus even took a couple of these boys back to Europe to show them what was going on. These get rich quick Spaniards said, "Columbus, you didn't tell us about this. You didn't tell us about hurricanes. Y didn't tell us about malaria. Yo didn't tell us about these cannibals." And so they don't want to obey Columbus. And so this is the beginning of the tensions that went on. So at this new settlement of Santa Domingo, Columbus leaves his brother in charge and then he goes back to Spain and he gets rid of third voyage. He comes across and this time he gets back to the settlement and he sees that the whole thing is in confusion, that the Spaniards were running off into the mountains and capturing Indians and taking their woman and stealing them, making them fill buckets with their golden earrings and killing them.
Columbus pens a letter to the King and Queen of Spain and he says, "I'm trying to do the impossible. I'm trying to find a way to the rest of the world. I'm trying to settle this colony. This isn't like an island in the Mediterranean where you got decent people to work with. These are greedy." Anyway, that letter gets intercepted by Fonseca, that greedy Spanish bishop that didn't like Columbus anyway. And so he convinces the king and queen of Spain to replace Columbus. And so the king and queen send over Babadilla and Babadilla comes over and decides he's going to arrest Columbus and his brothers. And of course Columbus, and he's up in the mountains trying to put down this rebellion that these Spanish are doing and his brother's there. You read the story, it was Sunday and back then everybody had to go to church on Sunday.
And so here is Columbus and his brothers and their church and sure enough, there's Babadilla and they have Babadilla wants to arrest Columbus, but nobody will put the chains on Columbus. And they get the cook to come out of the kitchen and they said, "Oh, he was smiling just like he was serving a fancy deal and he puts the chains on Columbus and they put Columbus and his brother in the ship and they send it back to Spain. The captain feels bad for him, offered to take off the chains and Columbus says," No, I want the King and Queen to see, "and gets into the King and Queen's presence and they order the chains taken off and everybody's like," Whoa, what is going on? "And meanwhile, Fizaka is sending every Spaniard he can to the new world and they're going up and down South America and they're fooling around with the women and all this.
And then Columbus finally, while he's laid up, he writes a book called Libro de las Prophesius or Book of the Prophecies, and he goes through the entire Bible and all the prophecies that talk about taking the gospel to the ends of the earth, to the aisles of the sea. And he says that he feels like his discoveries are part of fulfilling that. And so he finally convinces the King and Queen to let him go back on a fourth voyage. And their attitude was, "Hurry up and get out of here before the winds change on you, you can't." So now he's sailing back. He's coming across the Southern Atlantic and is caught in doldrums, which is an area where there's no end. And then after a while, the winds pick up and... Well, actually he prays that if God pick up the first island he sees, he'll name after the Trinity, so he named a Trinidad.
He's getting back to Santa Domingo, but he's forbidden to go there, but a hurricane's brewing. He remembers the last time he saw a hurricane and he disobeys his orders and he goes into Santa Domingo Harbor and he says, "You guys, this is going to be serious. You've never ever seen a storm like this before." There's a replacement replacement governor and he blows off Columbus, and so they're putting all the gold onto the ships. Columbus, his agreement with the King and Queen of Spain was sort of three things. He'd be called Admiral of the Ocean Seas, governor of all new lands discovered, and he would get a percentage of the gold. Anyway, I'll take a break here and pick up in a minute with the rest of the story.
Ed Bonderenka:
Yeah, we're going to take a break. It's very percipicatious of you. Folks, come on back after the break and we'll be talking to Bill Federer. Thanks.
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Ed Bonderenka:
Welcome back to the second half of your American Heritage. Today, starring William Federer, host of americanminute.com. Many books, a lot of good books. You should check out americanminute.com, look at the books that Bill's written. He's got a daily email that you can sign up for, and it's not like you're going to get bombarded with offers to extend your car warranty if you sign up for this. Bill puts out these historical snippets on a daily basis. It's what we call prolific. And of course, it's to wet your appetite for more in the books, which is not a bad thing. That's capitalism, and it rewards his efforts. I suggest you reward the man's efforts by a book or two. I couldn't even begin to tell you some of the really good ones because I can't remember the titles at the moment, but I remember the contents, which are...
There was one about modern miracles, and there's miracles in the American revolution. So we're back with Bill and we're talking about Christopher Columbus. And Bill, you were describing the situation that Columbus found himself in before break as he was on his fourth voyage. And then there's some questions I want to ask you about motivations for the voyage and the like. Go ahead.
Bill Federer:
Yeah. So the fourth voyage is one of the most unique. So he's coming across... By the way, the doldrums that he was in was on his third voyage. I think I may have said fourth, but it was on the third. But on his fourth voyage, there's a hurricane brewing. He gets close to Santa Domingo where he's told not to go, but he does anyway. And he gets off and he goes to them and he says, "This is going to be a storm you've never experienced before." And they blow him off. And so they won't give him shelters. So he rolls back out to his boat. He doesn't even bother bringing the rowboat back on top of the ship. He just lets it drag behind and they take off and they go trying to get to the other side of the island because the hurricane is coming from one side and he wants to go to the other side to try to find some shelter.
And he anchors down and two of his three ships, their anchors ropes broke and they're blown around the Caribbean for a while. Anyway, and little did he know that they were putting gold on the ships to take back to Spain, and Columbus's gold was on the slowest ship because he was a persona non grata. I mean, they didn't like him anymore, but all the other ships sank in the hurricane. But since his was the slowest, it had not yet gotten past the mangroves, those trees that sort of grow in the water on the coast. And one of the ships that sank had Bobadilla on it, that replacement governor that put Columbus in chains. Remember him? Yeah. So only one ship made it back to Spain, and it was the one with Columbus's gold because they'd stamp it.
But Columbus didn't know this because he's blown around the Caribbean. At one point, there's called a water spout, but it's a tornado in the water and it's going between his ships and it's sucking up this water and throwing it up. Everybody was convinced that it was going to sink them all. They were panicking. Columbus opens up the Bible and he reads the past where Jesus comes to see and he takes out his sword and he makes the sign of the crop toward the water spout. Then he draws a circle around all of his ships, and the water spout passes his son who was on that last voyage, witnessed this, and that's where the story came from. But he's blown around for weeks, and their ships are shot, and he's blown around for weeks and they're continuous 24-hour lightning, and they all thought they were They were as good as dead.
Finally, the storm clears and they're near the coast of Panama. And they land, one of the ships goes up the river and they get off. Little did Columbus know he was only 50 miles from the other side of Panama and the Pacific Ocean and the real route to get to India and China. But by this time he's in his 50s, he's going blind because it's sea, you're constantly staring at the sunset and they didn't know that you weren't supposed to look at the sun quite that much. Cataracts. Anyway, so he's going blind. He's got a terrible case of arthritis and he's sick. And so he's left on deck. They build a little Palisade type of encampment and the Indians decide to have a warm party and they attack and they kill a whole bunch and Columbus is left on the ship by himself and he's crying out.
He writes down later that he climbed at the very top and he passed out and he had a dream of the Lord saying, "Trust me and here I've made your name known throughout the world and yo ye a little fate type of thing." Anyway, the tide had gone out and so the boat was stuck in the river. And then finally it came out, but one of the boats sank and just a few years ago they found the cannons of the ship of Columbus's that sank off the coast of Panama. They found the cannons, right? Well, the one ship was stuck up the river and so he's got one ship left and it's waterlogged. If you have ships and then little barnacles attached to the side of the ship, well, inside the barnacle are these worms and they basically eat through the wood. And so the wood gets spongy and loose and then it starts taking on water and they couldn't bail fast enough.
And so this last ship of Columbus is sinking lower and lower and lower till the waters up to the rails. And they finally make it to the port, they didn't have a port, but to the coast of Jamaica. And he just runs the ship ashore and they're stuck there for a year. And the Indians are nice at first, but then some of his men would run off and fool around with the Indian women. And so the Indians decided they got to wipe out Columbus and his men. And Columbus this whole time, he's still keeping track of the stars. He was an expert navigator. He's the first one to navigate in the Western hemisphere. So he's seeing constellations that nobody had seen before, but he, believe it or not, was able to predict that there was going to be a lunar eclipse on February 29th, leap year day in the year 1504.
And so these Indians are getting ready to kill -
Ed Bonderenka:
I was going to say, and kids, you think paying attention to those things in school you're never going to use? Absolutely. Knowing when the eclipse is going to happen can come in handy. Is that right?
Bill Federer:
Yeah. Realized from his calculations that there was going to be a lunar eclipse on February 29th of 1504. And he calls the Indian chiefs to his boat late, late at night and he tells them that they need to continue to be nice to him and bring him food. Otherwise he will pray and God will blot out the moon. And of course they don't leave him. And so he goes into his cabin on his ship that sort of run aground and shipwrecked there. And he's looking out at the moon and he goes back in, he's looking at the moon and lo and behold, the moon starts to get black and it gets blotted out because of this lunar eclipse and these Indian thiefs screaming and crying out and he tells them that he'll pray and then finally the eclipse passes and then they continue to bring him stuff.
And he has a captain named Menendez who gets some of the Indians and they canoe all the way from Jamaica to Hispanola, to Haiti. And now this is where you have the replacement replacement governor because Babadilla is sunk and this replacement governor is having a battle in the doubles against the Indians and these messengers come and say, "Columbus is still alive." And his response is, "Oh great. I though we were done with that guy." And he waits six months. Then finally sends a ship with supplies saying, "We'll come and get you, but here's some guys to hold you over." And then finally a couple months later they take Columbus back and he goes back his last time to San Domingo. And by this time the people there love Columbus because these replacement governors were brutal. But he goes back to Spain and by this time Queen Isabella had died and King Ferdinand really doesn't care too much about Columbus.
And he puts his house in order. He even writes some letters saying that any of his inheritance that's left, he wants to use it to help evangelize the Indians and share the Christian faith with them. And then he works on having his sons be able to keep the titles and so forth. One of his sons was working in the King's Court. But again, he was a Genoan. He was an Italian and the Spaniards didn't like him. And so he was almost forgotten in history.
You had the 1800s and a lot of Italian immigrants came to America and these Italian immigrants wanted to popularize the fact that it was Columbus. And so Columbus sort of got a rediscovery of what he had done. And so that's when you began to name Columbus, Ohio and things after Columbus and so forth. But a fascinating history. He did change the history of the world.People say, "Well, what about the terrible Indians, the way they were treated?" Well, they were treated bad, definitely. But a couple things it's important to understand. The rest of the world, we're talking China, Japan, the Ottoman Turkish area, Europe, India, they had all gone from the Stone Age to the Bronze Age to the Iron Age. They were making steel. They had had steel. They had gunpowder. They had cannons. The American Indians were still living, for lack of a better description, in the Stone Age or the Bronze Age.
Now it's no fault of theirs. Most people think that when the Indians came to America, so there was a point in time when they were not here, but they came here just like everybody else came here, but they came here in the distant past, maybe after the Tower of Babel and everybody scattered. And most think that they came across the Bering Strait. It was either frozen in ice or it was lower water level. They've looked at DNA of people in Siberia and Mongolia and they've looked at DNA of American Indian and they've seen similarities, things like high cheekbones and black straight hair and no beards for the men. And anyway, when they came across two things, one is they were isolated genetically. So the rest of Europe, what they call Eurasia, they were having wars and battles and dragging people and prisoners and slaves. And so they were mixing the DNA so that when a disease would sweep through any of the areas of Eurasia, lots of people would die, but there'd always be some that would have a genetic predisposition to survive the plague.
Well, the American Indians had a nice that the Europeans came over and brought European diseases with them. It totally decimated entire tribes, entire population group. It was terrible. But when the Europeans came over, they had cannons and steel. There was actually a ship from treasure fleet and it's pretty well documented that the Chinese had sent out a treasure fleet in the 1400s and it actually went along the coast of South America. But here they had ships that were the size of ocean liners today, massive things. But when they got back, instead of them celebrating and the emperor's palace had been struck by lightning and in they had a mandate from heaven. And when the emperor's palace was struck by lightning from heaven, they considered him as doing something that heaven didn't like. And so the ships came back, they just let the ships rot in the harbor.
And so they didn't continue to. But the American Indians could have been conquered by the Chinese or they could have been conquered by the Muslims. There was that wanted to come and settle the new world, but he was involved in conquering Europe and Spain and didn't. But wherever Islam conquers, you wipe out all the ships that preceded them. But the fact of the matter is that the whole rest of the world was technologically superior. Again, it's not the Native American's fault because there was so much wild animals that it was so plentiful that there was no need to switch to an agricultural society by and large. You did have the Mississippian people, the you did have Aztec did have a growing and then some in the Incan empire in the South. But for the rest of it, it was mostly hunter gatherers. And so like Hawaii, people criticize America for taking them with the pineapples.
It's like anybody could have conquered Hawaii because the whole rest of the world had ships and they were still in canoes. And anyway, I'll take a break
Ed Bonderenka:
There. So you'd say that Christopher Columbus was pretty much a man of faith then from your description of him?
Bill Federer:
Yeah. He wanted to evangelize and trade with China and that's all of what his writings talk about. And if it had not been for that greedy fonseca, he never would've bothered trying to start any settlements. And then with those greedy Spaniards wanting to take the gold and in Europe, they had the feudal system. That was where these rich Lords would have an area that would be their feudal estate, so to speak. And there were peasants that were tied to the land and they would work the land and then the rich feudal lords would take a whole lot of it and then give what's left to the king. And so when the Spaniards came to America, they said, "Hey, let's just set up the feudal system. And whatever Indians happen to be on the land, those are our serfs." And they supposedly were supposed to watch over them and protect them, but they just put them to work in mines and a whole lot of them died.
It's really tragic, like Potosi silver mines in Peru. But to blame Columbus for that is historically unjust.
Ed Bonderenka:
Well, if it hadn't been for the Muslim persecution and conquest, Columbus would've never headed off west to find a new trade route. So you can blame all the Muslim conquests, right?
Bill Federer:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, slavery was a very large part of the... Most of the other religions, they were local, were not conquest driven. When Christianity comes along, you have the first, what's called proselytizing faith where you want to make converts, but Jesus didn't say, "Go to a town and wage war on it." He said, "Go to a town, preach your gospel. They don't receive you. Shake the dust and leave." But Islam comes around in the sixth century and Muhammad said, "Go to a town and offer them peace. If they want peace, they'll accept Islam. If they don't accept Islam, they mean they don't want peace and wage war on the town." And when you wage war, you kill some, you keep some of the slaves, but what do you do with the others? You sell them in slave markets. And so wherever you have Islam, you have slave markets and they enslaved millions of Europeans and an estimated 180 million Africans.
Timbuktu where the canoe meets the caravan was a big slave trading city. Khartoum in Southern Sudan. You had the Zanzibar Coast, Tanzania, Mogadishu. These were all Muslim slave trading cities of Africans, and they sold them throughout the Ottoman Empire and to the far East. And then finally I left chapter. So you had the Spaniards started enslaving Native Americans, and finally the Pope outlawed it and said, "No more enslaving of the Native Americans." Well, the greedy people say, "Where can we get more slaves?" And someone said, "Africa." So that's
When the Spanish and the Portuguese began to go to Africa, to these Muslim Arab slave trading posts and buy Africans and bring them to the new world. Most of Brazil, that's where the majority of the slaves went, and then to the Caribbean, and then just a relatively small amount to North America.
In researching Christopher Columbus, I noticed this article from the Philadelphia Enquirer, and basically there was a wooden box that had been placed over Christopher Columbus's statue. And of course, the left is trying to deconstruct American history. We've talked about that before, by removing heroes. And it's very heroic what Christopher Columbus did. I mean, the four journeys, I think after the first one, I'd have said, "That's enough. Typhoons and hurricanes." So go ahead and comment on what they're trying to do to remove our American history such as you presented.
Yeah. So part of the communist tactic to take over countries is you got to remove their identity. And so the British, I mean, all of them would come into countries and bring their language with them. They used the term lingua franca because in the 1600s, France had a global empire. Of course, whenever they would come in, they would bring the French language into Cambia and Vietnam and all these areas. And so it was like the trade language, so they would call it lingua franca. But the conquered peoples always learned the language of the conqueror, but then they would begin to supplant the history. So wherever Muslims would conquer, they would tear down statues. They would tear down graves and churches, the big Hagya Sofia, they would cover up all the icons in mosaics and with whitewash and put Koran verses on there, and they would rename everything with Muslim names.
And so it's like a gene replacement therapy for a culture. You take out the old identity, you put in the new. This happened during the French Revolution where they tore down statues of Good King Henry IV who tried to patch up the Protestants and Catholics. And they dug up the bone to St. Genevieve and trashed them. They wanted to get rid of anything that was Judeo-Christian during the French Revolution. They didn't want a constitution done in the year of the Lord. So they made 1792 the new year one of the republic. They didn't even want a seven-day week because it went back to the Bible. So during the French Revolution, they came up with a 10-day week. I mean, they wanted to sow, get rid of the history because they wanted to do something new, right? This little qualitative fraternity, and it ended up turning into debauchery and Napoleon took over.
But even in China, you had the third century BC, it's called the Warring States period, and you have a half a dozen Chinese kingdoms fighting, and one wins with Quincy Huangdi, and he was criticized for doing things differently than they had been done before. So he decided to destroy all history and records of how things were done before. And so he burnt tens of thousands of bamboo anal books. This is a tactic that's used over and over again. You don't care about the two different sides. You want to destroy the history because you want to bring in your communism or totalitarianism, which is just a nice way of saying dictatorship.
Ed Bonderenka:
Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate that analysis and it strikes me as normally always directed at a Christian culture when you talk about the Muslims. So we're coming up on the end of the show. Folks, we've been educated by William Federer, americanminute.com. I've enjoyed it. I trust you have. Please come back again. We're going to have Bill on again in the future and visit americanminute.com and avail yourself. Sign up for his newsletter. Thanks again, Bill. Thank you, Derek, for producing, and thank you folks for joining us. God bless America, and America bless God.
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